June 7, 2010
I thought the limit had been pushed on wolf hating but Lobo Watch, an anti-wolf website, is stating hunters may have to start playing dirty to get rid of wolves by poisoning them with the popular sugar substitute, Xylitol, which is deadly to canines and that means WOLVES AND PET DOGS!!
The post, on the Lobo Watch website, titled “Is It Time To Start Fighting Dirty?”, is cloaked as a hypothetical but it’s real meaning is clear, wolves need to be removed illegally because they aren’t being killed fast enough by the state, to satisfy the wolf haters. Or heaven forbid if Judge Molloy relists wolves this summer and takes away their opportunity to kill more wolves. It’s another version of SSS except it’s Poison, Shovel and Shut Up. Maybe not even shovel, just shut up.
This cruelty would not only put the lives of wolves in danger but pet dogs as well:
Toby Bridges rails on about the loss of game animals due to wolves, yet The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation trumpeted the successful recovery of elk in their Spring 2009 press release. Titled “Elk Population Reflects Success of RMEF’s First 25 Years”. Montana’s elk population rose 66% to 150,000, since the RMEF was founded in 1984. Idaho’s elk population rose 5% with 105,000 elk. But wolf haters like to point to certain areas of Montana or Idaho where elk populations have dipped, as in northern Yellowstone. It’s true their numbers have dropped but the park was not meant to have a herd that big. Theelk were overgrazing riparian areas, stunting willow and ash, driving away the “water managing” beavers and with them went the songbirds and other wildlife. The wolves’ return brought balance back to the park. Today the stream and river beds of Yellowstone have been restored, all due to the wolves’ presence on the landscape.
Pronghorn antelope numbers have surged in Yellowstone because wolves are managing coyote numbers, who prey on Pronghorn fawns. This of course is called nature and ecological balance but I’m wasting my time talking about trophic cascades to the anti-wolf crowd. They only seem to care how many ungulates are on the ground for THEM to kill. The most deadly predator is not the wolf but man.
Apparently Toby Bridges believes there is an “under the table” agreement between the USFWS, The Humane Society, The Center for Biological Diveristy and Defenders of Wildlife, to end hunting. Of course that’s ridiculous. Actually Liz Bradley, one of Montana wolf managers, used to work with Ed Bangs at the USFWS before wolves were delisted. She, along with the rest of the “wolf team”, were out in force around Montana, last Wednesday. promoting FWP’s 2010 increased wolf hunt quotas, that will definitely double or close to triple the number of wolves that can be killed by hunters. The proposals also include a wolf archery season and backcountry rifle season. The “wolf team” even suggested that if Judge Molloy relists wolves, they will try to find a way to hold a wolf hunt by allowing private hunters to kill wolves for agribusiness instead of Wildlife Services. Would that not be circumventing the ESA? (that’s definitely a subject for another post)
So how the wolf hating crowd thinks wolves are getting a big break from the state game agencies and Wildlife Services, when they have been killing wolves in large numbers, (over five hundred wolves died in the Northern Rockies in 2009) ….just doesn’t add up.
Even if Toby Bridges believes in this “agreement” or any of the other silly, dangerous wolf myths he likes to throw around, it doesn’t excuse suggesting hunters are going to start poisoning wolves. That is wrong, disgusting and in my opinion, illegal.
He goes on:
My dogs were poisoned several years ago, so this is a very touchy subject for me. Watching them in the throes of Grand Mal seizures is something I will never forget. For Bridges to coldly discuss poisoning of wolves by hunters, is crossing over the line! I would hope hunters will speak out about this, they cannot possibly support this type of behavior.
I thought long and hard about posting this because I didn’t want to give Bridges the attention he apparently is seeking but it’s a serious enough threat to wolves that it can’t be ignored!
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Anti-wolf Web site proposes illegal poisoning of wolves
http://howlcolorado.org/2010/06/07/anti-wolf-web-site-proposes-illegal-poisoning-of-wolves/
Thanks to Jon for bringing this to my attention!!
Posted in: Wolf Wars, Howling For Justice, wolf intolerance
Tags: Xylitol poisoning wolves, wolf hysteria, wolf persecution, illegal poisoning of wolves?
…and they wonder why hunting gets bad PR outside their group. Isn’t it a crime to encourage illegal activities?
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Seriously John, this sounds like inciting people to poison wolves. Something should be done. I have to look into this further.
N.
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Getting into the intricacies of constitutional law there. I do agree that this does infact satisfy the requisites to remove freedom of speech protections, but someone would have to poison a wolf in the way he describes and then authorities would have to have the desire to charge him and then take the legal challenges through the courts to make the charges stick and at every step, you would have to deal with the possibility that some precedent would have any conviction over turned.
In short, he’s unlikely to face any charges even if the law and the constitution does in fact allow for prosecution.
However, this is obnoxious and I do hope this will serve as an opportunity for hunters to step up and make it very clear that they don’t want this man being perceived as a representative for them. There are many who are disgusted by this man.
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howlcolorado,
I agree with everything you said, he’s hiding behind free speech but walking a fine line because of incitement to cause harm to wolves.
His website is hosted by Homestead Technologies Inc.. Here’s the link: http://www.homestead.com/~site/splash/index_slim_panels.ffhtml
There’s a phone number on that site.
His views are similar to Ron Gillettes unfortunately.
Thanks for all you do for wolves,
Nabeki
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Everyday its another fight for them…why do they want to kill? I’m so sick of it now they talk of Xytiol? I just can’t get over the sick minds of these people?
N sorry to hear about your dogs, that must of been terrible, I’m so sorry… 😦
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crystalwolf…it never ends. Everyday some new horror. I can’t believe how much things have degenerated since wolves were delisted, thanks to the Obama administration.
It’s as if every wolf hating nut job has crawled out of the woodwork. I fear for the wolves if they ever come in contact with any of these haters.
N.
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I was looking through the site, and the guy was also saying that wolves where going to eat all the elk, then attack the cows and pets and end up eating people. Whoa, I was like “what has happened with this idiot? has he ever read a book at all?”
And now THIS? I’m sure that if he starts to go wolf poaching when the wolves are again listen somebody sure has to report him.
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Personally Loua I think he’s doing this for the attention. He wrote to this blog many times but his comments went right to spam. He was spewing the same tired rhetoric that he spews on his website. But discussing poisoning wolves with Xylitol crosses the line, just evil.
N.
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Evil, evil, evil, evil, evil. And I think you are right, who knows…
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NABEKI!je trouve odieux de se servir de ce terrible poison pour tuer les loups.je suis un pro-loup.il faut que l’on sauve les loups.
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Weee! French advocates!
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Hi Jean De France,
I think the translation is: I find it obnoxious to use this terrible poison to kill wolves. We must save the wolves. (I hope that was close.)
Merci d’aider les loups!
Nabeki
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fine translation!;)
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IT’S DISGUSTING,IT’S SHAMEFULL!!!I REALLY CAN’T IMAGINE WHEN WILL BE END THIS WOLVES-PERSECUTION!THEY ARE NOT NORMAL…THEY ARE THE DEVIL! DEAR NABEKI! I’M SO SORRY FOR YOUR DOGS!!!
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Thank you for the kind words Agnes. My dogs were poisoned with strychnine and suffered terribly but they both survived thanks to a great vet and getting them both to the hospital quickly.
N.
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Strychnine!!!???? Did they fell in one of Wildlife Services’s traps? Or did they got poisoned in another way?
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Actually Loua, somone was putting out poison baits. It was several years ago and they never caught the person, although people had suspicions. One of my dogs suffered from kidney problems after the poisoning. The thing that amazes me is this wolf hater over on Lobo Watch doesn’t care that wolves would suffer a terrible death. To poison them is one of the worst things anyone can do.
N.
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Wow, I am glad to hear that Nabeki. Did they catch the scum responsible?
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Thanks for the kind wishes for my dogs. They never caught the person Jon but I had suspicions about who it was. As I told Loua one of my dogs suffered from kidney problems after that. Anyone that poisons an animal is pond scum in my book. I don’t care if it’s a private citizen or Wildlife Services.
N.
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Glad to hear that they survived just to be clear.
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Thanks Jon!!
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DEAR NABEKI! I’M FRIEND OF AGNES DELANIS.I VOTED:NO! OF COURSE. I’M PRO-WOLVES. WE MUST SAVE WOLVES! GOD BLESS EVERY WOLVES ON THIS BAD WORLD!
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Welome to the blog Jean De France….I hope you will find a home here and join us in helping to save these magnificent animals that are so persecuted.
For the wolves, For the wild ones,
Nabeki
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people r so crule, we half to stop those stupid, idiots that r killing one of the most beautiful animals that God has set on the world. i sooooooooooooo hate those stupid idiots they r destroying Gods creation. God bless the wolves that God has put on this beautiful, but crule world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HORSES, WOLVES,CATS, AND DOGS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE,
SERENA
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THem POOP HEAD r dum for killing wolfs i LOVE WOLFS them SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH and so awesome GOD BLESS WOLFS ❤ SOME PEOPLE R SO STUPID HORSE,ROCK WOLFS,ROCK CATS,ROCK . LOVE,
ALITA
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Nabeki,With all that is going on,I can’t remember when Judge Malloy is going to make his ruling.Can you please refresh my memory?
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Hi Rita,
Judge Molloy is hearing oral arguments on Tuesday, June 15. He is not expected to rule from the bench so there may not be a decision until late summer. I’m thinking August. Hope that helps!
For the wolves, For the wild ones,
Nabeki
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Interesting. From now on I will be carrying some of this with me as a counter measure in the areas where I hunt in Wyoming, Idaho and Montana – until the wolf populations are brought back in line with the original numbers agreed to.
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So Dave, you are openly admitting you’re going to poison wolves with Xylitol and break federal law? Good to know. I think USFWS should know about this.
“Violators of the Endangered Species Act are subject to fines of up to $100,000 and one year’s imprisonment. Organizations found in violation may be fined up to $200,000. Fish, wildlife, plants, and vehicles and equipment used in violations may be subject to forfeiture.”
N.
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How would Dave function as a conservationist without all his weapons to kill things with. You have no idea how pathetic you sound, with your lame imaginary numbers that you idiots pull out of your asses. You sound like a five year old little spoiled kid
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hey DAVE…..please: let s meet somewhere!!!…..mother earth will be really satisfied when the meeting is done!!…believe me!!!!
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Nabeki
Have we isolated Dave’s defective gene pool yet?
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Well william I imagine he will think twice before he comes on a pro-wolf blog announcing: “I will be carrying some of this with me as a counter measure in the areas where I hunt in Wyoming, Idaho and Montana – until the wolf populations are brought back in line with the original numbers agreed to.”
N.
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After a while it gets irritating. Chock up another comment destined for the anti-wolf bingo board. Reminds me of the republicans and the 8% unemployment comment after our country was about to go off the edge of a cliff. But President Obama said”……….Idaho and Wyoming have definately showed their true colors, with the aerial gunning, poisoning pups in their dens….. such evil people
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this is sick… i cant belive people would stoop so low!
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Anti-wolves have no shame. They are a disgrace and a embarrassment to America
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why can ´t somebody fight against them physically AND finally!!?!!…these guys and humans like these, are the reason, the ONLY reason why this earth is so sick!!! CHILD ABUSE, ANIMAL ABUSE, KILLING, SLAUGHTERING…….POISENING…..i PUKE on those wimps…sorry….but the world will be a lot richer without human beings who are thinking, writing, acting like these motherless, uneducated, inbreeded nazis!!
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I frequently use this and antifreeze to poison wolves and coyotes! Eat a dick you wolf loving Eco-terrorists!
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