Circumventing The Endangered Species Act 101

Yellowstone gray wolf/black phase

Something disturbing is going on. Montana FWP is pulling out all the stops to find a way to circumvent the ESA and kill wolves. They are desperate to have a wolf hunt THIS YEAR.  Wolves in the Northern Rockies just regained their protections on August 5th, after a horrific year of slaughter. Now they are facing new, very real threats.

What Montana FWP is up to and why you should be very concerned:

1. They’ve formed a coalition with the anti-wolf crowd. On August 20th, at the Helena Red Lion Colonial Inn, Montana FWP met with ten hunting and ranching groups with the purpose of forming a coalition to explore ways to strip gray wolves of their ESA protections.

From the Helena IR:

One of the hunting requests involves asking the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services for an “enhancement of survival permit application” to be processed and issued by Nov. 30, which would allow wolves to be hunted this year. Under that request, the state is saying that a conservation hunting season for wolves would enhance the survival of the species, according to Dave Risley, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks fish and wildlife division administrator. (So they want to kill wolves to save wolves. Hmmm where have I heard that before? Click here)

“The 10(a)(1)(A) permit is a mechanism under the Endangered Species Act that allows for the lawful taking of a listed species,” Risley said. “It would allow us to salvage some type of hunting season.”

“FWP also is making a simultaneous request that the federal agency downlist wolves in the northern half of the state from endangered to threatened, which could allow a statewide conservation hunt in 2011. They’re listed as an experimental population in the southern tier of Montana.”

(They can’t accept that wolves in Northwestern Montana are now fully protected, not an experimental population. Wolves south of  I-90 are labeled experimental, which is a terrible concession to ranchers dating from the original wolf recovery plan, making it easier to kill wolves for minimal depredations.)

“We view the use of public hunting as the optimum population management tool,” FWP Director Joe Maurier wrote in a letter sent Tuesday to Rowan Gould, the USFWS acting director.

He added that while Montana wants to work with the USFWS in a “collaborative, proactive manner,” that “time is of the essence” and asked for a written response to the requests by Sept. 10.

On a separate track, FWP has drafted legislative language asking Congress to reaffirm its original intent in enacting the Endangered Species Act and its subsequent amendments. In particular, the state wants Congress to say that species can have different classifications in different significant portions of the species’ range. That legislation would have to be carried by Montana’s congressional delegation.

The FWP Commission also passed a resolution saying they believe the Endangered Species Act needs to be reformed, and will send that statement, along with a cover letter, to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

We’re using a shotgun approach, rather than a BB gun,” noted Bob Ream, commission chairman.

This list doesn’t include Representative Rehburg’s declaration that he will support House Bill 6028, which was introduced by a Congressman from Texas. It aims to re-write the ESA, excluding gray wolves from it’s protection.

From the Flathead Beacon:

Bill Would Prohibit Wolves from Federal Protections

By Kellyn Brown , 08-11-10

Just days before a federal judge reinstated protections for wolves in Montana and Idaho, a Texas lawmaker introduced a little-noticed resolution that would prohibit wolves from being considered a threatened species. H.R. 6028, introduced by Republican Congressman Chet Edwards on July 30, basically adds one line to the Endangered Species Act.

Here’s the bill:

To amend the Endangered Species Act of 1973 to prohibit treatment of the Gray Wolf as an endangered species or threatened species.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. PROHIBITION ON TREATMENT OF GRAY WOLF AS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES OR THREATENED SPECIES.

Section 4(a) of the Endangered Species Act of 1973 (16 U.S.C. 1533(a)) is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

‘(4) The Gray Wolf (Canis lupus) shall not be treated as an endangered species or threatened species for purposes of this Act.’

Montana Senators Baucus and Tester, both Democrats, vow to introduce legislation in the Senate similar to House bill 6028. Once upon a time I believed Democrats were better on the environment but after the Obama administration picked a rancher to head the Interior and then delisted wolves, I’ve lost faith in them. Now two Democrat Senators are turning their back on the ESA. I never thought I would see that in my lifetime. Shame on them for playing politics with wolves lives, pandering to ranching and hunting lobbies, trying to gut one of the most important pieces of environmental legislation. If it wasn’t for the ESA, wolves would never have made a comeback! Do they so easily forget wolves were exterminated in the West by the feds?

What are we to make of all this? The power of the state of Montana ganging up on wolves in a big way, unable to accept Judge Molloy’s decision, frantically searching for any loophole to allow a wolf hunt. All this over 500 wolves in a state that has more cows than people. Minnesota’s wolf population exceeds 4500. Wisconsin and Michigan each have over 700 wolves. The Great Lakes Region is home to millions of people, ten million in Michigan alone, yet Montana, the third largest state in the lower forty-eight thinks 500 wolves is too  many. They are so afraid of offending hunters, ranchers and outfitters they’ve apparently forgotten they represent ALL the citizens of the state, not just a few interest groups.

Where is the media on this? When was the last time you read a positive editorial about wolves? Can you remember? The majority of articles revolve around the opinions of Montana FWP and the triad of ranchers, hunters and outfitters. Occasionally there will be a blurb from a wolf advocate or environmental organization, expressing their concern or outrage but that’s it, a few little lines. Why isn’t the media looking into or writing about the “anti-wolf coalition”?  Is the press even mildly curious to determine if it was even legal? Is investigative journalism dead?

Ironically Montana Commissioner Dan Vermillion made this statement, not understanding how foolish it sounded:

Changing the Endangered Species Act sounds like a tough, uphill job, but it’s important when you look at other species like grizzlies and sage grouse,” said Commissioner Dan Vermillion. “Montana has done a good job managing wildlife and we need to make sure we are not penalized   because of other states’ actions.” (The only thing I agree with in this statement is changing the ESA will be more than an uphill job, it will be a battle!! Frankly, people are sick and tired of the abusive way America’s wildlife is being exploited. Just think about the millions of wildlife killed, especially our native carnivores at the hands of the ridiculously named Wildlife Services, the extermination arm of the USDA.

 

When did they get the idea our wildlife belongs to them, to use and abuse as they see fit? They work for us, not the other way around.)

Oh yes, Montana has done a wonderful job “managing wildlife”. First could they drop the word “manage” and just say kill? When you hear the word “manage” in reference to wolves, you can “bet the farm” it means kill wolves. So let’s stop playing word games.

Do the “wolf managers” truly believe they’ve done a sterling job concerning wolves in Montana? Are they so deluded they actually believe their own rhetoric? From my perspective it seems they believe wolves are a nuisance needing to be ‘managed” down to ridiculously low numbers. What type of scientific studies are they basing this thinking on? I remember reading a wolf report written by Montana FWP that discusses Cristina Eisenburg, the wolf biologist, leading a three-year study on trophic cascades. I fleetingly thought this was a  positive step , that FWP recognized wolves have a positive effect on the environment, until I read what they were looking for. The question they wanted answered is how many wolves would it take to produce the effect? In other words, how few could they get away with and still benefit from trophic cascades? My optimism quickly faded.

What upsets me is many of the people who work for the state game agencies are biologists. People that sought to educate themselves about nature, to study wildlife and do good. What the heck happened to these people? If you examine almost any fish and game agency, they are stocked with biologists who seem to have no problem carrying out mis-guided policies that get wolves and other native carnivores killed. I don’t understand it. I think of Gordon Haber, the biologist who spent his life studying wolves, specifically the wolves of Denali in Alaska. When he was killed in a plane crash last year, the wolves lost their champion. He’s the type of biologist I admire, true to his convictions, he stood up for what he believed in and he believed in those wolves!

Ever since Judge Molloy reinstated ESA protections for gray wolves in the Northern Rockies, there has been a steady stream of whining, hand wringing, complaining and frantic behavior that I can only describe as sour grapes. This is the way poor losers act. Even if  FWP didn’t agree with the Judge’s decision, there is a right way for state government to conduct itself. This is not it. Frankly, it’s embarrassing to watch. Any harebrained scheme will get consideration as long as it results in wolves losing their federal protections, leaving them defenseless against this onslaught.

Forget all the other crazy stuff going on, the fact a state agency formed a coalition with anti-wolf groups in one day, without any public comment, is egregious. The facade, that they represent all Montanans, has been swept away. We know where they stand.

This is not science, its pure politics. The revenues and interest the state received last year from the wolf cull (hunt) is something they desperately want to repeat.

Wolf advocates must fight back. I’m posting the links to the contact information of every member of the House of Representatives and Senate, so you can let them  know we do not want anyone meddling with the ESA. No re-writing the language to exclude wolves. If they are allowed to get away with this, I can guarantee the next species targeted will be the grizzly bear.  They are subject to the same persecution as wolves. Chris Servheen, Grizzly Bear Recovery Coordinator, predicts the Continental Divide grizzlies will be delisted in 5 years. He pushed the delisting of the Yellowstone grizzlies, which Judge Molloy reversed. We all know how this will turn out for grizzlies. Even though the bears are protected under the ESA they are still shot and killed by hunters every year,  who can’t seem to tell the difference between a black bear and a grizzly. Grizzlies are hit by trains because grain often spills from railroad cars, causing bears to congregate around the tracks, increasing the likelihood they’re run over. The bears become habituated to garbage that people carelessly leave unsecured or bird seed scattered around. We’ve all heard the saying “a fed bear is a dead bear.” Grizzlies have one of the lowest birth rates among mammals, because they keep their babies with them for at least two years. It takes time to teach baby grizzlies how to navigate in their hazardous world.

Several years ago a Montana newspaper printed an opinion piece on grizzlies titled Grizzly Heaven/ Grizzly Hell. To paraphrase the article, Grizzly Heaven is anywhere there are zero people, Grizzly Hell is when bears come in contact with humans, which usually ends up badly for the bear. The same could be said for wolves. Wolf heaven is being away from people, free to raise their pups, hunt, care for each other and do what wolves should be doing. Wolf hell is being managed by a state agency that only seems to care about what a few interest groups want, without consideration of the wolf families destroyed by their policies, the puppies killed, the disruption of pack cohesiveness and the havoc they are wreaking.

Wolf Warriors now is the time to stand for wolves. Please support the National Wolf Recovery Petition,  submitted to the Interior Secretary by the Center for Biological Diversity. Please take the time to read it. It moves wolf recovery away from numbers and concentrates on wolves repopulating their historic range. This is true wolf recovery, not wolves held hostage in states hostile to canis lupus,  wanting to “manage them” out of existence. It moves wolf recovery away from “the numbers game” paradigm that’s haunted wolf recovery from the beginning.  The clock is ticking, we must be pro-active, wolves need us more than ever.

Please write to Congress and express your outrage over the threats coming out of Montana, to strip wolves of their ESA protections. They need to hear the voices of the American people, not just a few special interest groups.

Congressional Contacts: (Please remember this Congress will expire on December 31, 2010 and a new Congress will be sworn in thereafter. Republicans may take the majority back in the House. If this happens we have to remain vigilant and continue to write and call concerning the ESA.  I personally don’t think whoever controls Congress has the stomach to meddle with the ESA but nothing surprises me anymore.

The battle will be epic. The ESA is the bible of environmentalism. It would be similar to taking on the NRA over gun rights.

House of Representatives:

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml

 Senators of the 111st Congress:

 http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

HOWL for protecting gray wolves!!

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State scrambling to revive wolf hunt

http://helenair.com/news/article_ab7503ce-b594-11df-ad16-001cc4c002e0.html

Photo: Courtesy Sigma Eye

Posted in: Montana wolves, Howling for Justice

Tags: ESA, Montana FWP, USFWS, Department of the Interior, anti-wolf coalition, wolf hunts, wolf persecution

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  1. WHY CAN PEOPLE NOT LIVE WITH THESE BEAUTYFULL ANIMALS,JUST LEAVE THM ALONE THEY BELONG ON EARTH,LET THEM ROAM THE WOODS AND PRAIRIES IT IS THERE HOME NOT OURS

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    • Hi Petra,
      I wish I had the answer to that question. I think it’s because some people have no respect for wildlife or the earth in general . They believe in dominion and take and abuse whatever suits them.

      Thanks for reading. My hope is wolf adovcates will unite and stand against this brutality.

      N.

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  2. Dear Nabeki.
    Recently when was win the battle against hunters i was so sure for one thing Wolfs will be secure,free,ALIVE. Well after this post i am afraid so much because i think that win was too short was a beautiful dream and now was ended. All will stand against any people who will try to change anything about ESA. The politics the media now aim against Wolfs. But also like every war we will fight back i am so sure none of us all the kind and strong supporters of this blog will stop to call or write to all the people who are responsible for this situation.
    Just inside me i wish all this people haters and hunters should have the opportunity to face the Wolfs like some other people people who live with them and see from real close the true identity of Wolfs. People who stay speechless from the trust and devotion that Wolfs show to them. I wish ALL OF THEM having the chance to feel like Shaun Ellis or Jamie and Jim Dutcher or some other people who see study and finally love the most beautiful creature God create THE WOLF…

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    • Hi Vasileios,
      Beautiful words, thank you. It is sad that so soon after winning their ESA protections back, wolves are once again being threatened. This time they are pulling out all the stops. I wouldn’t allow these people to babysit my cat let alone our entire wolf population.

      We will fight against this Vasileios. If they think they can gut the ESA to get their way they’ve got another thing coming. There is no stomach in Congress to take that task on. Montana, Idaho and Wyoming don’t represent the entire country. Most people outside the West would be appalled to know what’s going on here. Very little accurate wolf news actually makes it to the mainstream media and even then it’s the same talking points the local media prints.

      We’ll keep going and never give up until wolves are truly protected, however long that takes.

      N.

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  3. Brilliant and comprehensive report, Nabeki! Thank you for surveying and summarizing all of the nefarious anti-wolf activities that are underway by Montana’s governmental officials. One can only imagine similar discussions and meetings going on in Idaho and Wyoming, only with even less public awareness than in Montana.

    You put your finger on a point that is sorely missing: newspapers doing investigative journalism articles on the plight of wolves. There are a couple of reporters, e.g., Rocky Barker in Boise and The New West’s Mr. Schneider (sp?), who regularly publish articles on the politics of wolves, but they’re in small niches. I would suggest you email your blog entry to all of the appropriate editors of print media in Montana and Idaho, with the suggestion of assigning a “cub” reporter to study and write about this more. It’s a topic that literally begs for more coverage and discussion.

    Since I’ve moved back to Michigan, I feel obliged to correct a couple of items in your blog about Michigan: 1. Michigan only has a population of about 10,000,000 people, rather than 20.0M. 2. 99.9% of wolves in Michigan are located in its Upper Peninsula (with just 100+- on Isle Royale), where there is a growing cry from all hunting and some “conservation” groups for establishing a wolf hunt. Michigan is on the threshhold of electing a Republican governor after 8 years of democratic governor Granholm’s leadership, and so folks here are presuming increased Lansing bias toward wildlife destruction/management in the new administration. Michigan’s U.P. is similar to northen Idaho and western Montana in the sense of being heavily forested, sparsely populated, and inhabited by people who view the Opening Day of deer (white tail) season as a religious holiday and would like nothing more than being able to legally hunt wolves (they’re reducing deer and moose numbers is a common cry here, too), too. I’ve even read of increasing efforts to establish a wolf hunting season in Minnesota. I will keep you posted as to the progress of these efforts.

    Again, bravo for a tremendous blog entry and thank you for spelling out current actions so clearly!

    Rich

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    • Hi Rich,
      Thanks so much for the kind words concerning the post, I wanted to convey a sense of urgency because I ‘m afraid people may become complacent, thinking wolves are safe, when they are most definitely not.

      Thanks also for the heads up on Michigan’s population. I think I pulled that number out of my head at 3am…lol. You were probably surprised to learn your state picked up another ten million people overnight. I made the correction.

      And lastly thanks for the idea to contact the press and challenge them to dig deeper into this issue. They write almost verbatim what the fish and game agencies feed them, with a few one liners from a lone wolf advocate thrown in. I can’t remember the last time a truly positive article was written about wolves unless it’s an opinion piece sent in by someone sympathetic to the gray wolves plight.

      I asked this in my post but is investigative journalism dead? They should be all over the “anti-wolf coalition” story but I haven’t read one word questioning it in the slightest.

      We all miss you. You are our eyes and ears in the Great Lakes now. I would love if you’d consider writing a piece on wolf politics in your region, I would surely post it. So little gets out concerning that area and what the true situation is like on the ground. Let me know if you’re interested.

      Great to hear from you!!

      For the wolves, For the wild ones,
      Nabeki

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  4. I equate MT. FW&P, hunters, ranchers, elected officials and other haters recent behavior to a drowning person. Having nearly drowned once myself… I have first hand experience in what happens and what is going through your head!
    The grabbing and thrashing of your arms in an attempt to locate something….anything that is going to stabilize you and not interrupt the want for air! So it is with the above. They are thrashing about grabbing for anything that will bring about their precious wolf hunt. Like a drug addict dealing with cold turkey. Its very sad to watch and know there is little they can do. Pathetic! I only hope that they are dealing with the same feeling a wolf has when it feels the impact of a piece of metal and realizes that all is not well and they are about to die. I do believe that when a wolf or other animal is shot they realize they are dieing contrary to what the experts tell us. My only hope is that there is no life guard to save the day as there was in my case!

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    • Great analogy Mark and completely agree. It’s not pretty to watch what’s going on. To have the full weight of state government against wolves is fairly shocking, even for them. Welll the gloves have been off for some time. We know where they stand.

      I too almost drowned when I was a kid and know that feeling of air hunger, it’s so overpowering, blocking out anything else. That’s the way the haters are acting now, like their very lives depend on killing wolves. Crazy stuff.

      N.

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  5. Dear Nabeki,

    Well, we knew it was coming didn’t we? These people are so blinded by their hate for wolves and their need to kill animals. It is truly sickening. What breaks my heart is to know that these same people have children, and they are raising their children to be as ignorant and blood thirsty as they are. Okay everyone. We have to band together to write letters and make our voices heard. It isn’t enough to just love wolves and think their are beautiful and majestic. Nabeki, I think you are right in they will have a tough time gutting the ESA, but let’s not take any chances. Please everyone write your own Senators and Reps in the house and let them know your position on wolves and the fact the Wildlife Services for all intents and purpose has now become Wildlife Killers. also Max write Montana Senators Baucus and Tester.

    Also Rowan Gould and the Center for Biological Diversity needs to hear our voices. And I know I sound like a broken record but Ken Salazar needs to hear we think he has his job description a little mixed up. He is the Secretary of the Interior, not the cheerleader for the Cattlemens Association and the Hunters.

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    • It’s pretty sad SCWG we couldn’t even enjoy the victory longer then a day before this insanity erupted. Like you, I urge everyone to get a jump on this and start writing Congress. Especially important is the new Congress that will be sworn in at the beginning of next year. The Congress that sits now will expire on Dec 31, 2010 and all bills still in committee will die with it. So HR 6028 will likely be reintroduced. But just because these Senators and Reps are preaching to their base doesn’t mean that the majority in Congress will take on gutting the ESA. We still have to be vigilant and watch this situation very carefully. I agree we should write Salazar but I think he’s a lost cause…look what he’s doing to our wild horses.

      N.

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  6. ‘Rearranging’ the ESA just to have a hunt of ONE species, not just any species but one that has tremendous political enemies – it is sick on so many levels. If this is done to wolves, you can sure bet it won’t stop there.

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    • They are proving over and over why wolves need the protection of the ESA. These people are out of control with their hate. It reminds me of a feeding frenzy when you chum the water for sharks. I don’t mean to insult sharks.

      N.

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      • I compare giving wolves over to state control much like leaving a big bowl of candies in a room with a child, telling the kid specifically not to touch them and then leaving the room.

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      • John…They are proving over and over they should not be in charge of wolves or any predator for that matter.

        N.

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      • Nabeki/others, what are your thoughts on the hunters on the internet claiming that many more wolves are going to die that would have been killed during a legal hunt? Do you believe many hunters will resort to this? I don’t believe that many wolves will be poached by hunters myself. Whether the feds brought the wolves back or not, I am CERTAIN that hunters would still hate and despise wolves even if they migrated here on their own. 60% of Montana’s wolf population did just that and the feelings for wolves haven’t changed. The simple fact of it all is that hunters hate and despise wolves simlply because they kill deer, elk and moose, the animals that hunters want to kill.

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  7. I will be the first one to tell you I am not a rocket scientist… However, I am not an idiot either. So can someone explain to me how this statement is indeed possible?

    One of the hunting requests involves asking the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services for an “enhancement of survival permit application” to be processed and issued by Nov. 30, which would allow wolves to be hunted this year. Under that request, the state is saying that a conservation hunting season for wolves would enhance the survival of the species, according to Dave Risley, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks fish and wildlife division administrator.

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    • Marc, they’ve repeated this before “Killing wolves, To Save wolves”. I wrote a post about it. Sime thinks the hunt were a great success and we NEED wolf hunts. They are just throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks. I’ve never seen so much hate and vitriol directed at a species. I’m afraid for wolves that these are the people who have control over their lives. It’s frightening.

      There was utter outrage around the world when a girl was videotaped throwing newborn pups into a river. I couldn’t watch the video but what is the difference with her throwing pups off a bridge into an icy river and the Idaho, Montana or Wyoming gassing pups in their den? Where is the outrage for wolves and their pups? Has the world gone mad? Where is the media on this?

      N.

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  8. Marc,I don’t have any answers for that statement,but it was either Claroline slime,not positive,that said that by culling the wolves it would prevent them from killing each other such as in territoral disputes.They figure if the wolves get to over populated,turf wars will happen.Frankly wolf packs have fought to keep their territory from the beginning.It shouldn’t be anything new now.They have to find a way to justify killing them or having a hunt.The last thing I heard Earhjustice is trying to go after the 10j.I am rather worried about the bill,HR6028,being a rider bill that will be tagged on to another major bill that the president wants to sighn and everyone wants,so it will get passed.They will hold on to it until the right moment.Regardless.it is going to be a rough ride.

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  9. Rita, You are correct with your comment on Sime being the first with a similar statement. They must be using flash cards! I too, am concerned about the ESA bill. I will be watching closely as this bill develops and will take appropriate action to prevent this damage to the ESA. Dave Risley’s statement has been bothering me for several days. After I left the comment above I went to MtFW&P website. I looked up his email and placed his quote and asked for an explanation. As soon as and if he does reply I will let everyone know. All the best!

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  10. Thank you,Marc.

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    • To All Interested. As some of you know I sent an email to Dave Risley to explain his comment. His comment is below. Following his comment is his reply to me. I am interested in what you all think about his reply?

      One of the hunting requests involves asking the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services for an “enhancement of survival permit application” to be processed and issued by Nov. 30, which would allow wolves to be hunted this year. Under that request, the state is saying that a conservation hunting season for wolves would enhance the survival of the species, according to Dave Risley, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks fish and wildlife division administrator.

      Mr. Risley Reply to me!

      On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Risley, Dave wrote:

      Dear Mr. Cooke – You asked for more information about my quote where I stated we would ask for a conservation hunt for wolves. That refers to Section 10A 1(a) of the endangered species act which allows for take (killing) of animals if it is in the best long-term interest of the population (full text below). Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks feels that the wolf population in Montana is fully recovered and indeed exceeds carrying capacity and is need of management. Increased prevalence of mange, intraspecific mortalities (wolves killing other wolves) and livestock conflicts all point to an excess number of wolves on the landscape. Our Wildlife Bureau is currently drafting the specifics of the request to be presented to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. I hope this answers your question. Sincerely, Dave Risley

      SEC. 10. (a) PERMITS.—(1) The Secretary may permit, under such terms and conditions

      as he shall prescribe—

      (A) any act otherwise prohibited by section 9 for scientific purposes or to enhance

      the propagation or survival of the affected species, including, but not limited

      to, acts necessary for the establishment and maintenance of experimental

      populations pursuant to subsection

      Dave Risley
      Fish & Wildlife Administrator
      Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks
      1420 E. Sixth Ave.
      PO Box 200701
      Helena, MT 59620-0701
      (w) 406-444-9817
      (c) 406-439-5078

      I realize as I am getting older I must be becoming increasingly naive! I just dont see how this is going to benefit wolves! It seems like more of the Mt FW&P two step!

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    • What’s really scary is that the feds are going against two of the judge’s rulings.

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  11. Jon- if you haven’t heard of this book called “Slaughter the animals, poison the earth” by Jack Olsen published in 1971. Read it- it explains how the ranching community constantly perpetuates the myth of predator control and how the idiots in Wildlife Services like Mark Collinge feed into the myth to keep their job. One part of the book explained how in one county there were no depredations and how two ranchers who were known liars got the FEDS to start poisoning coyotes and other predators, by lying and causing hysteria. You will hate ranchers even more after reading this book!

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    • Hi William, I asked this on another blog. Why is the first solution always kill kill kill? They also make others believe that wolves are responsible for a lot of livestock depredations when it is known for a fact that coyotes and other animals kill far more animals than wolves. I am not saying this to make these other animals to look like bad guys, but just stating the truth on when it comes to wolves and livestock depredations. They are using this livestock depredation when they know it’s not true as an excuse or reason why to justify the killing of wolves.

      Government statistics back up critics’ claims that wolves account for a small proportion of livestock losses caused by predators. They kill fewer sheep and cattle than coyotes, bears, mountain lions or even dogs.

      One thing from the article that truly truly disgusting me was this

      One of the more extreme proposals – burying wolf pups in their dens and then poisoning them with carbon monoxide gas – would be used only infrequently, in cases where the rest of the pack had been killed for preying on livestock, officials said.

      Whatever happened to ranchers and wolves and other predators co-existing together? This isn’t going to happen if the first solution is always kill kill kill. I truly wonder if ranchers are actually trying to find other non lethal methods when it comes to wolves. It seems more like the 1930s not 2010 when it comes to the attitudes of some. I guess livestock is much more valuable than native wildlife. What a truly sad world we live in.

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  12. Jon the book that I just recommended will open your eyes. Coyotes are by far the biggest scapegoat of them all- even more than wolves. As I said these haters are anti-environment, anti ecosystem, they really piss me off. As i said to Nabeki- I don’t know how you people can stand it- I would be locked up for breaking someones neck.

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    • William, believe me, I have the SAME EXACT feelings as you do, but I prefer not to say them on here. I know how angry and pissed you may feel at some of the atrocities that are going on with wildlife. I feel the same as you. A lot of us are truly disgusted and angered by some of the things that are going on.

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      • Jon, Rita and William,
        This has gotten totally out of hand. When I read Michael Robinson’s Predatory Bureaucracy, The Extermination of Wolves and the Transformation of the West I was shocked by the brutality that was committed against wolves. But we are witnessing the re-birth of that hatred and cruelty. These people are acting like they are possessed. Everyday it’s a new scheme to kill wolves. They know wolves kill so few livestock but facts don’t matter to them. In 2009 wolves were responsible for 92 cow losses out of a population of of over TWO MILLION COWS. Does that sound like a crisis? AND I don’t for one second believe the WS goons wolf depredation numbers. They could make up any number they wanted. There is no oversight. Who’s out there watching them?

        Now they are going after the wolves in the Great Lakes. Just chilling.

        N.

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      • Nabeki, I blame these ranchers for their own livestock being killed by predators. If they are not able to find solutions or ways to keep predators away from their livestock without resorting to having the predators killed, their livestock will continue to be killed as well as the predators. It starts and ends with the ranchers. I find it truly disgusting that everytime a wolf or wolves kill a livestock animal, the first solution is kill kill kill. The lives of cattle are worth more than native wildlife that belongs. I know, it’s 2010 and it’s disgusting and saddenening to see the way things are. Ranchers are responsible for a lot of wildlife destruction.

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      • Jon…..predation is a red herring they like to toss around to prove their twisted point. They know it’s no big issue, heck many of the ranchers let their cattle loose on public land in the fall and don’t see them again until Spring. They have no idea if these animals are sick or dying. They are just out there, trampling down native grasses, polluting our streams, eating up more and more grazing land that wild ungulates need. Cattle actually are the problem to this entire situation, we need to get cattle off our public land.

        Ranchers can’t even tolerate THIRTY NINE wolves in New Mexico and Arizona out of a 4 million acre recovery area? The Gila National forest is crawling with cows, especially from the Adobe/Slash ranch…who pay ridiculously low grazing fees. Besides getting wolves in trouble cattle are ruining our wild places. Why in the heck are cattle allowed to graze in a national forest? Especially one that’s part of the wolves’ Blue Range Recovery area?

        The man that owns the Adobe/Slash ranch isn’t even an American, he’s Mexican. Yet that ranch and other ranchers complain about our wolves while they leave their cattle unattended in the wolves recovery area. And you know who’s to blame? The feds, for allowing the spread of cattle all over our public Western land. The money they make off those grazing leases is a pittance. And who suffers? Our native carnivores, who’ve been pushed off their land by friggin cows.

        And I like cows, it’s not their fault, they are merely pawns. That’s why we should all support Western Watersheds, they’re doing the important work by challenging public cattle grazing and they are WINNING. That is the ultimate solution to wolves problems and the biggest obstacle to wolf recovery. We should all support the Center for Biological Diversity national wolf recovery plan as well. Those two organizations are pro-active, working to change this train wreck of a situation.

        N.

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  13. Jon,I have to agree with William on the fact that,sadly, coyotes are the biggest scapegoat.

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  14. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309135/Puppy-throwing-girl-Grandmother-saved-dogs-struggling-water.html

    Has anyone heard about this story? Sickening and truly disgusting!

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    • Jon….I just posted a comment about this today:

      “There was utter outrage around the world when a girl was videotaped throwing newborn pups into a river. I couldn’t watch the video, it was too horrible but what is the difference between her throwing pups off a bridge into an icy river or Idaho, Montana and Wyoming gassing pups in their den? Where is the outrage for wolves and their pups? Has the world gone mad? Where is the media on this?”

      N.

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  15. To All: I received a reply from Dave Risley about his comment below. How to save wolves!

    One of the hunting requests involves asking the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services for an “enhancement of survival permit application” to be processed and issued by Nov. 30, which would allow wolves to be hunted this year. Under that request, the state is saying that a conservation hunting season for wolves would enhance the survival of the species, according to Dave Risley, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks fish and wildlife division administrator. (So they want to kill wolves to save wolves.

    Here is his reply to me!Its the same old Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks BS! Please comment on your thoughts!

    Dear Mr. Cooke – You asked for more information about my quote where I stated we would ask for a conservation hunt for wolves. That refers to Section 10A 1(a) of the endangered species act which allows for take (killing) of animals if it is in the best long-term interest of the population (full text below). Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks feels that the wolf population in Montana is fully recovered and indeed exceeds carrying capacity and is need of management. Increased prevalence of mange, intraspecific mortalities (wolves killing other wolves) and livestock conflicts all point to an excess number of wolves on the landscape. Our Wildlife Bureau is currently drafting the specifics of the request to be presented to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. I hope this answers your question. Sincerely, Dave Risley

    SEC. 10. (a) PERMITS.—(1) The Secretary may permit, under such terms and conditions as he shall prescribe—

    (A) any act otherwise prohibited by section 9 for scientific purposes or to enhance
    the propagation or survival of the affected species, including, but not limited
    to, acts necessary for the establishment and maintenance of experimental populations pursuant to subsection

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  16. Marc,I am disgusted but not surprised.What a bunch of croc!All three excuses are lame.Mange(mites), a dredful disease, is passed on with other canines,etc.Other animals have disorders as such but I don’t see them running out to killing them.Intraspecies mortalities,give me a break.Turf wars happen,like it or not, that’s what they do naturaly.They defend their pack from others.I do not want to go there about the cows.Lets blame the people who domesicated the cow to the point that all it knows what to do is to run and they don’t due that well..Lame excuses.

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  17. Sorry for my spelling.

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  18. The way I see it is this guy did not answer my question!

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    • He didn’t answer your question Mark…basically he parroted back what he said the first time. How can he say that with a straight face? Hunting the small, persecuted Montana wolf population is good for them? That seems to be FWP’s main theme, kill wolves to save wolves. What a crock? Tell him you were born in the dark but it wasn’t last night…lol

      N.

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    • They never do.

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