Elk Herds Thriving in Montana! Pretty Ironic Isn’t it?

After all the whining and complaining about wolves and elk it turns out many of  Montana’s elk herds are increasing and doing just fine. In fact they’re doing so fine, they’re causing problems. Looks like a job for the wolves. Oh no, wolves have to be “managed”, we can’t allow them to do the job they were born for, now can we??

For years we’ve listened to complaints about wolves decimating elk in the Northern Rockies even though overall numbers have remained consistently high in the tri-state area of Montana, Wyoming and Idaho, almost 400,000 elk according to the 2009 25th anniversary press release  Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. 2010 numbers were just as rosy.

There was the very harsh winter of 96/97. wiping out the white tail deer in Montana and many of the elk but they’ve rebounded nicely. Interesting how nature works, isn’t it?

Now wolves are facing brutal hunts because they were caught up in a ridiculous campaign to demonize and blame them for all human ills. I guess wolves caused the war in Iraq,  the bad economy,  they  probably are responsible for the collapse of the housing market.  Apparently what they weren’t doing was killing all the elk.   How ironic

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Record elk herd above Missoula

Posted: Feb 16, 2011 2:56 PM by Mark Holyoak (KPAX News)
Updated: Feb 17, 2011 9:44 AM

MISSOULA – Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks biologists recorded the highest amount of elk ever in their latest aerial survey of Mount Jumbo.

Read more: http://www.kaj18.com/news/record-elk-herd-above-missoula/

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Growing elk population spurs debate near Eureka

Posted: May 19, 2011 10:52 AM by KPAX/KAJ Media Center
Updated: May 19, 2011 10:53 AM

KALISPELL- Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks officials are taking a look at several issues that have stirred debate among hunters and landowners in far Northwest Montana.

A growing elk population north of Eureka has landowners concerned about the number of hunters shooting near their homes and worry about stray bullets and illegal trespassing while hunters are concerned with increased hunting pressure and safety while hunting on public land according to FWP’s John Fraley.

Read More: http://www.kaj18.com/news/growing-elk-population-spurs-debate-near-eureka/

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Bitterroot Valley elk numbers increase in annual count

By PERRY BACKUS – Ravalli Republic | Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2011

Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks biologist Craig Jourdonnais spotted around 400 more elk in the Bitterroot Valley this spring than during the annual monitoring flight last year.

Read more: http://ravallirepublic.com/news/local/article_a3348de8-7b72-11e0-9ce4-001cc4c03286.html

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Photo: Courtesy Wikimedia Commons

Posted in: Wolf Wars

Tags: Hypocrisy, irony, elk thriving, sick of talking about elk, wolves demonized once again, Mount Jumbo, Bitterroot Valley, Missoula, Montana, Northern Rocky Mountains, Ravalli County Montana

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  1. Oh deer (pun intended), the hunters will say that this is simply not true and then find a way to discredit it. That’s just how they work. They’ll even put down the ones who are complaining about the stray bullets and the tresspassing and say that they are in a wolf cult and that this is just a ruse to get the gov’ment to put the wolf back on the list.

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    • Yep, that’s what they will do. They want to make it seem like the elk are completely gone from Montana, wiped out and killed off by the wolves, but it’s a bunch of lies. Hunting elk has gotten harder because as we all know, wolves change elk bevahior and they move around much more than they used to before wolf reintroduction. Wolves and elk have been co-existing alongisde each other for who knows how many years and both animal are here today. Hunting elk is not easy for the wolves despite what some wolf hating hunters will tell you. I believe wolves are successfully in 1 out of 7 hunts. elk are not easy animals to bring down.

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      • AMEN Jon!

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    • Very punny indeed Christie, Smiles!

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  2. I have to say, I am glad there are people like you guys still in this world fighting for very important things such as protecting our wildlife.

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    • Jon…We have a terrific group of advocates fighting together for wolves. (-:

      For the wolves, For the wild ones,
      Nabeki

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    • Jon, you have a delicious knack for providing such a wealth of information,I am grateful at least this link provides good news.

      Bring on the investigations, bills, amendments, and whatever it takes to end to all unethical practices. All it takes is one single action to ignite a spark.

      Safari Club…hiss…why are their talons always involved?

      Braggarts such as the Hopkins’ will bring about their own demise and the unraveling of the so called “sport” they cherish. I have had it with these pictures that pay homage to senseless brutality and slaughter…not to mention the smug grins and gleeful sneers. Excuse me for saying this, but I would much rather see the two wolves they so ruthlessly killed, smiling and kneeling over their lifeless bodies. At the very least, take them out into the wilderness and chase them around with the same unrelenting orgasmic pleasure for a a few hundred miles, and see how they like it.

      This says it best:

      To see what is between the sights of his gun and to claim it for himself is a grossly selfish perception, especially since the killing of wolves is not essential for man’s survival but serves only for his immediate gratification. ~~ Michael W. Fox, The Soul of The Wolf

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    • Jon I remember the horrific incident in BC that prompted these new rules:
      “A written account — published online by a couple associated with the Dallas Safari Club of Texas — detailed the use of bait and a snowmobile travelling in excess of 140 km/h to prevent a seven-member wolf pack from escaping.”

      Those wolves were trapped and chased to exhaustion if I remember correctly. Just awful.

      NDP seeks ‘fair-chase’ law to help protect B.C. wildlife from unethical hunting

      By Larry Pynn, Vancouver Sun May 27, 2011
      The NDP has introduced a bill that seeks to amend the Wildlife Act to make it illegal to hunt wolves by placing bait.

      Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows MLA Michael Sather’s Fair Chase Act would also forbid anyone from impeding the movement of wildlife “by placing a motorized vehicle, aircraft, boat or other mechanical device between wildlife and the direction the wildlife is proceeding.”

      The Vancouver Sun reported on a controversial wolf trophy hunt with Wicked River Outfitters on frozen Williston Lake reservoir in northern B.C. in February 2010.

      A written account — published online by a couple associated with the Dallas Safari Club of Texas — detailed the use of bait and a snowmobile travelling in excess of 140 km/h to prevent a seven-member wolf pack from escaping.

      The provincial conservation officer service continues to investigate that incident. The province says it is awaiting the outcome of the investigation before deciding if fair-chase laws are needed.

      The Wildlife Act prohibits the use of a “motor vehicle or other mechanical device to herd or harass wildlife.”

      The NDP said Friday it proposed the bill not with the expectation it would be adopted by the Liberal majority in Victoria but that it might help to influence future government policy on the issue.

      Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/seeks+fair+chase+help+protect+wildlife+from+unethical+hunting/4853729/story.html#ixzz1NpJXeygV

      N.

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  3. Hunters, with itchy trigger fingers and too much testosterone are the problem. What will you do…elk herds are thriving, stray bullets flying, illegal trespassing…oh my! Lions and tigers and bears!! Guess we’re not in Kansas anymore Dorothy…can only be in Montana!

    Take a good hard look at the facts Montana and Idaho…and this is with the presence of wolves. What’s your excuse now, other than suffering from a rectal cranial inversion?

    Unfortunately Nabeki, they will see this as another opportunity to have an extra hunting season or some other lame excuse, other than to allow the balance of nature to unfold. Anything other than to holster their obstinance and admit the glaring truth…they need the wolf.

    “Anybody with questions about the issue and the proposed solution may contact Tim Thier at (406) 882.4697 or Jim Roberts at (406) 250.1042. Time to make calls.

    “All of the proposed changes to the current season structure must be approved by the FWP Commission and will be subject to public comment during this coming fall and winter comment period.”

    “No changes will be made until after the public has a chance to offer input, Jourdonnais said.”

    Nice to know that public opinion STILL does matter, wasn’t too sure about that anymore. Maybe wolf advocates will also have a chance to offer their input. Unless this will be a rigged debate.

    And it should spur debate…after all… sure looks like a plethora of opportunities to embrace all the open invitations.

    Maybe we should also bring these articles to the attention of our mighty leaders who betrayed the wolf.

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  4. Hunters threatening to illegally kill wolves.Can you report these people even though they are hiding behind pseudonyms?

    http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76943.msg943944/topicseen.html#new

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    • Coward always need to hide behind something. As for this statement: “the true heroes in wolf management will be the people who live in the rural areas that take wolf management into their own hands.”

      I will finish my comment as soon as I throw up.

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    • Jon they are well aware of these people I’m sure of it. How can they not be? But still we need to complain bitterly about this.

      N.

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  5. I found out some disturbing news today. Idaho is apparently going to allow snaring, trapping, archery plus rifle seasons, and there is apparently not going to be a quota so wolf hunters can kill as many wolves as they want. People on here need to start emailing, calling, doing whatever to let other wolf advocates know what Idaho plans to do with its wolf population.

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    • Aye me, Jon. What I would really like to do is round up all these idiots and let them suffer from their own wrath. If that makes me a bad person, then I accept that knowledge and resign myself to fate.

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    • Jon where did you hear that there is not going to be a quota? That would be horrific!! Is this circulating in the media? I knew about the trapping, snaring, archery, baiting, calling..the whole disgusting, awful litany but NO QUOTA?

      N.

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      • lynne stone said it on ww facebook page. try to get more information if you can. Snaring should be outlawed. It is a slow and agonizing death and snaring also doesn’t discriminate. any animal can get caught in snares.

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      • Nabeki, maybe you can send lynne a message on fb and ask her where she heard those things from. Ken from Ralph’s blog also said he heard the same thing from Lynne. We need people on here and other places to email Virgil Moore and let him know that snaring is barbaric and let him know what you think. He is the new idfg bigwig who took over Cal Groen’s job.

        virgil.moore@idfg.idaho.gov

        email this guy and let him know how you feel about wolves!!!!

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      • Jon, I did write to Lynne about this. Idahoans especially need to write to Moore.

        N.

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      • I sent Virgil Moore an email and I think you guys should as well.

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      • This is really really bad. I’ve been reading a little bit about Virgil Moore. I found this article:

        “He said he intends to seek direction from the hunters and anglers who finance much of the department through license and tag fees.”

        http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/03/31/1945326/virgil-moore-hired-to-lead-idaho.html

        If this is true, then he will be looking to please them too.

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      • It’s one big “good ole boys” club goin on here WL.

        N.

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  6. I hav a great idea – I know it would be really hard to do for the hunters, take a few years off & NOT HUNT ELK. It’s called “keep it simple” god forbid they not hunt for a year or 2. geez.

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    • That’s a great idea ramses unfortunately I’ve rarely ever heard anyone admit hunting pressure contributes to elk declines. Of course it has to but it’s always the predators that are blamed.

      N.

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  7. Idaho is run by the that blood thirsty governor Butch Otter, it does not surprise me in the least that he would allow such tactics. Sounds to me the folks in Idaho are living in the stone age by the way they like to hunt. They obviously like to torture creatures to. I will NEVER VISIT THE STATE OF IDAHO …. EVER.

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    • You’re right Ramses, there’s nothing charismatic about the blood and gore that seems to rouse their insatiable cravings. And it’s certainly not an enticement to visit a state with a Governor that has such a lecherous reputation. I wish there were a way to get him out of office. Or just evict Idaho from the US.

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      • I meant vicious reputation …but who knows they may both apply.

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  8. And remember when people used to say (just a year ago) “The wolf is on the landscape now, here to stay”. I felt that comment was placating my sense of growing alarm. I didn’t believe it then and I don’t believe it now. I can only hope something happens with this lawsuit and soon. Please God.

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    • gline, I don’t believe it either. You know wolf hating hunters will tell you that wolves are here to stay and than they will tell you they are going to try everything they can to eradicate the wolf all over again. You have hunting, poaching, disease, wildlife services, etc that are all killing wolves. Montana and Idaho don’t have very large wolf populations like Canada. I also want to thank you very much for standing up for wolves on the missoulian and billings gazette. There are a lot of extremely hateful and bigoted people who post over there. Most like ranchers and hunters.

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    • ‘Wolves are here to stay’ is just a euphemism for ‘shut up’.

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      • That is a very profound statement John and oh so true. Every time I hear it, it makes me want to scream. What does that even mean?

        For the wolves, For the wild ones,
        Nabeki

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  9. Nabeki, if you can get in touch with lynne on wolf warriors so you can see what is going on in Idaho, that would be great. Everyone should send emails to Virgil Moore letting him know how you feel.

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  10. Hi,

    Great stuff here. I just moved to Montana to work for the Sierra Club, and I’m happy I stumbled across your blog. What a great resource for wolf issues.

    I also just published a blog post on wolves here (http://dispatchesfromreality.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/the-ancient-wolves-of-yellowstone/). What amazing animals.

    Thanks for your work.

    -Zack Waterman

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    • Hi Zack,
      Welcome and thank you for sharing your blog post and reminding people there is still time to comment on the wolf quota madness. We went through this last year and the quota then was 186 with an archery and backcountry rifle season. So their whole argument “that they want to kill the wolves in the front country they say are bothering livestock is blown”. Why harass wolves in the back-country who are minding their own business? Naturally this is all nonsense, they just want to kill wolves, backcountry, front-country, whatever. I can’t believe wolves are facing hunts once again. 2010 gave them a little break but now we’re back to the killing season.

      For the wolves, For the wild ones,
      Nabeki

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